[ca-gw] [Ca-standard] state wide registration system idea

[John Russell]

Hi Steve

The idea of the registration system would be that a non-profit entity runs
it so there is no financial or personnel burden upon the cities. Laura
Allen from Graywater Action (formerly Graywater Guerrillas) would be a
natural candidate to take this on of she is willing. Her description of
the system is as follow:

Grant funding would support the creation of a data
 base held on a non-profit type site- local cities or counties could sign
 up and then would have a tab on the site. Local jurisdictions would send
 residents to the site to fill out info on their permitless systems (and
 permitted systems?). Water districts could get reports of water savings
 from greywater in their service area. Cities would know where the
 greywater systems are and would not have to do extra work to collect that
 data.

Best regards,

John Russell
--
WaterSprout
510.541.7278
879 Aileen St. Oakland, CA 94608
http://watersprout.org

> The problem with a "registration" process is that it's totally unique.
> They'd have to create a new bureaucracy to implement it (receiving folks,
> training, forms, computer input, IT support, etc.).  That'd cost a
> fortune,
> and no city has extra money.  The closest thing they have right now is the
> permit process.  So, by asking for a tracking feature, you're really
> asking
> for a permit imposition, and there we are again, right back to where we
> started 20 years ago.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ca-standard-bounces at graywater.org
> [mailto:ca-standard-bounces at graywater.org] On Behalf Of John Russell
> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:07 AM
> To: laura at greywaterguerrillas.com
> Cc: ca-standard at graywater.org
> Subject: Re: [ca-gw] [Ca-standard] state wide registration system idea
>
> I would like to return to Laura's idea of creating a tracking/registration
> system for unpermitted graywater systems as outlined below. Now that SF
> has fired the first shot across the bow, other cities may soon follow. I
> think a registration system would be a great idea to address and alleviate
> fears from these cities.
>
> Please weigh in on this as I think we need to present something more to SF
> than just emails.
>
> Best regards,
>
> John Russell
> --
> WaterSprout
> 510.541.7278
> 879 Aileen St. Oakland, CA 94608
> http://watersprout.org
>
>> Hi Everyone,
>> There seems to be a lot of interest in having some kind of tracking
>> system
>> for the washing machines and single fixtures (that don't require a
>> permit). No permit is critical for this to be low cost and easy for
>> homeowner, AND having info about these systems is important. Several of
>> the stakeholders have been discussing the logistics of a tracking system
>> that would be easy, not a barrier, and gather good data. We'd love your
>> input.
>>
>> Tracking System Idea: Grant funding would support the creation of a data
>> base held on a non-profit type site- local cities or counties could sign
>> up and then would have a tab on the site. Local jurisdictions would send
>> residents to the site to fill out info on their permitless systems (and
>> permitted systems?). Water districts could get reports of water savings
>> from greywater in their service area. Cities would know where the
>> greywater systems are and would not have to do extra work to collect
>> that
>> data.
>>
>> This is the info we think would be important to collect. Please
>> comment/add ideas.
>> thanks,
>> Laura
>>
>>
>> Data
>> 1.Address:
>> 2.Water District:
>> 3.Fixture (s) used for greywater:
>> 4.Estimated GPD:
>> 5.Date of installation:
>> 6.Detergents used:
>> 7. (check all that apply) Installed by:
>> owner/renter/contractor/landscaper/plumber/certified greywater
>> specialist/other
>>
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